Posts by Miss Worldly

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A Chance To Plant A Seed That We All Have

by dubstepped in

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i'd like to brainstorm something with the rest of you.

this summer at the regional conventions we all know by now that a talk on shunning is going to be given.

we all know what that talk will likely point to.

If all the world were JWs....

by Tornintwo in

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in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

Miss Worldly

Ok, so my take. Sorry if I'm being dumb (it's because I'm worldly!) but, if all the world were JW's. . . There would be no need for JWs as there would be no 'badness' left in the world........

...... Either that or Armageddon really happened.........

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If you went back in time, would you be a god?

by Simon in

we just finished watching outlander which is about a woman who goes back in time ~200 years from the end of wwii.

she ends up in the scottish highlands in the middle of the jacobite uprising.

it's a great show although the last episodes were a little graphic (they make game of thrones seem like sesame street).. but it got me thinking ... if you went back in time would you in fact be the 'god' you may imagine because of your knowledge of modern technology and the future?.

Miss Worldly

Ooh,ooh, not seen the movie, I don't want to spoil the books, I've read all 8 of them, now waiting for the ninth one! Brilliant. Very sadly ( for most other people) I've read the first one probably, about. . . .erm. . 10 times. . . (Shhhh!)

i think, much like Clare, we would be seen as someone to be wary of, a witch, a healer. But as she came from the 1940's today's technology would be a damn sight more frightening to 18c highlanders!!

As for our knowledge, I don't think we particularly have much more knowledge than we did then. Our basic knowledge comes from past generations, the vast majority of other things we know, come from our technology.

Ha! Just read this back, it makes no sense whatsoever! Sorry! I know what I mean.

it was the Jamie & Clare that did it!

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'Worldly' man looking for a little more understanding...

by Verecocha in

saw similar title in a google search so thought i'd read more and now simply have to share my experience if anything to hear that i'm not insane and it is that simple.. met and fell madly in love with a witness, and her with me.

what began as love at first sight turned into a 6 year relatiomship which simply ended very bluntly.

there were many painful twists and turns along the way, first from her inability to leave her husband, then my mistake in finding someone else as i simply couldn't take the pain of her coming and going with such simplicity, but in the end she got a divorce and suffered many consequences within 'the truth', and i sorted my issues which were many and admittedly dug with my own hands and stupidity in trying to protect a young girl who had done no wrong in this long affair.. eventually we found ourself on what i believed to be the home straight.

Miss Worldly

I wish I could be as positive as you. I'm sorry your journey is at an end, I feel for you, I really do.

As far as my story goes, I am told I'm still very much loved and missed,(this doesn't help, it's wonderful and heartbreaking at the same time) but ours is an impossible situation that will/can never end they way we want. Walking away seems much too hard, but at least I know as you do, Jehovah comes first! (Sarcasm is now my only defence!)

I'm all fought out. Guess you are too. It's pointless.

"You never know how strong you are until strong is the only choice you have"

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'Worldly' man looking for a little more understanding...

by Verecocha in

saw similar title in a google search so thought i'd read more and now simply have to share my experience if anything to hear that i'm not insane and it is that simple.. met and fell madly in love with a witness, and her with me.

what began as love at first sight turned into a 6 year relatiomship which simply ended very bluntly.

there were many painful twists and turns along the way, first from her inability to leave her husband, then my mistake in finding someone else as i simply couldn't take the pain of her coming and going with such simplicity, but in the end she got a divorce and suffered many consequences within 'the truth', and i sorted my issues which were many and admittedly dug with my own hands and stupidity in trying to protect a young girl who had done no wrong in this long affair.. eventually we found ourself on what i believed to be the home straight.

Miss Worldly

Hey Verecocha, first of all, I'm not supposed to be here anymore, said I'd quit, but your story made me have to reply. I am/was in a very similar situation to you, as you can guess from my name, I'm not a JW.

I'd love to say 'run for your life' 'you're better off out of it' etc, but I know where you are coming from and it ain't that easy! I'd love to say, 'hang in there' it'll get better, but I KNOW it doesn't.

While I don't condone having a relationship with a married person, we don't know all the facts. So, it's not mine to judge.

It makes no sense. And it hurts like Hell. The too-ing and fro-ing comes from the deep seated illogical guilt, fear and goodness knows what else! When the JW mask slips and you see the person underneath you feel you are gaining ground, then BOOM, the mask goes back on. We, are bad associations, we, in the eyes of JWs, will never be good enough. As much as they love and care for us, FEAR + GUILT = control. We will only get our hearts broken, time and again. They WILL be 'encouraged' to stop 'associating' with us. it doesn't matter what we do.

As far as I can work out, unless they Wake Up, there is not a cat in Hells chance of this ending well.

I'm sorry I can't be more help, I'm sorry I don't have any answers, I need them myself. If you ever find any, let me know!! Good luck my friend!

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File, save, print

by Miss Worldly in

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friends

hey, my first post started with 'my story isn't complete' the final chapter has now been written.

including a very flamboyant 'the end' to boot!

i'm pretty sure there won't be a sequel, i don't think my heart could take it.

Miss Worldly

Hey, my first post started with 'my story isn't complete' The final chapter has now been written. Including a very flamboyant 'The End' to boot! I'm pretty sure there won't be a sequel, I don't think my heart could take it. So I want to thank everyone here for their wisdom, advice and humour. I have not posted much, at all, but have read lots, learned a lot, got to know some of you from reading your posts.

I think it's best if I take a step back for now. I may still pop in from time to time, if that's ok. I just need to heal for now.

I am proud to say, I am still, NOT a JW, Still never have been and still never will be.

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Is the term "worldly" outdated?

by A.proclaimer in

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friends

yesterday i had to listen to the co from a spanish congregation on the phone.

he said the fds has been gradually moving away from the word "worldly" and teaching jws not to use the term anymore.

has anyone heard this in their congregation or heard the term "non-believers" used before?

Miss Worldly

Does this mean I have to change my name??? 'Miss Unbeliver' doesn't have the same ring to it!

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Your Opinion Pleeease

by thankyou in

jw girl non-jw guy.

tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.

Miss Worldly

As I said in my first 'hello' post. My story isn't finished yet. So I do understand where you are coming from, but, all I can add to the other replies you have had is. . Heartache. . happiness. . heartache. . tentative happiness. . heartache. . .hopes-up. . devastation. . happiness. . heartbreak.. . Unfortunately this is the never ending roller coaster you are in for if you really love this girl.

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Where the real abuse lies.

by ctrwtf in

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friends

let me start with a disclaimer: i am in no way minimizing the horrific crimes done to children by pedophiles.

i'm not downplaying the number of lives lost due to the blood issue, or hearts broken because of shunning.

i do not want to discount the feelings of those who have come to the end of their lives with expectations of paradise postponed.. but to me the biggest atrocity committed by this awful cult is raising children from a small age to believe that soon god will kill billions of people.

Miss Worldly

A friend of mine (non-JW) told me about her son. He was only 5yrs at the time. He came home from school one day and asked his mum, '. ........ says she's never going to die, but God will kill me. Why?'

How do you explain that to a 5yr who is now extremely worried about his own mortality after chatting to a JW school friend?

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Why does Antoine Leiris' powerful tribute to his wife, killed by ISIS in the Paris attacks, bother me so much?

by nicolaou in

here is the translation of monsieur leiris' words;.

friday night, you took an exceptional life - the love of my life, the mother of my son - but you will not have my hatred.

i don't know who you are and i don't want to know, you are dead souls.

Miss Worldly

I cannot add to anything you have said. You said it very well Nic. This heart wrenching, desperately sad, anger provoking story is one that must be being relived 128 more times in France tonight. All I feel I can say, is that, Monsieur Leiris is a very brave man. He is not giving the 'people' that killed his wife what they want, which is the anger. They haven't made him angry. They have not made him fuel his life with hatred. They have made him fill his life with love, love for his wife and love for his son, in turn, his sons life will be full of love. They have failed. Failed to murder the love of a family. My thoughts are with all.